Game may still be afoot.

Could they politely but firmly say “no thanks”?

At some point their much touted instinct for political power must kick in surely?

Must be obvious to the saner ones that they can’t outflank Reform on the right,in which case their chances of ever returning to power are toast.

EU membership married to some form of Major-like economics..

There is a mysterious/extraneous “no” in there somewhere..

I’d draw your attention to the wider thread.

Always better to get the fullest idea of
what a conversation is actually about,I no find.

“Youths” are probably in their 70s now.

“Smile you bastards, SMILE!”

Also a Croatian dessert wine.

“Would” be?

And those refs, they keep failing, decade after decade.

Somebody really should be having a word.

And yet, despite all this skullduggery, you won.

The govt really needs to start saying out loud that UK print media largely consists of flag-waving for the interests of their (usually absent) right wing super wealthy owners, and their opinions should be treated accordingly.

And heaven knows I’m miserable now”

All for it. Absolutely here for milking the rentier class until their pips squeak.

Any odds on the Tory party being so intellectually hollowed out it is ripe for a reconquista by pro EU business faction?

All the Brexit headbangers will be graduating to the UKs “Reform Government in waiting”

Me too. But the idea that in the UK there is a magical pot of rich dudes cash we can tax that’ll be enough to fix the NHS, climate Infrastructure and defence is fantasy.

We are all going to have to pay Scandinavian levels of tax. Reeves budget was chickensh!t, but it was a start.

Thanks Chris, but wasn’t really my point either. 😬

I take issue with the idea that “I/my guys are paying more than their fair share and *somebody else* is getting away with it” Common trope on the right, expect better from ZP.

Which I don’t dsagree with and wasn’t the point I was making.

Agree,but that wasn’t my point.

Depends how you view it.

Current levels of taxation are irrelevant: truth is, we’re *all* going to have to pay a more. That is the reality.

I wasn’t happy with Reeves budget but its a start. ZPs attack line seems far to close to “everyone has to pay more tax except for me/those folk”