About time to take Dan’s suggestion and put a fan out there?!

Same. I just finished shoveling the drive way and was about to head in…

No doubt. I have no issue w Gray return. He’s a top 10 highest paid player in MLB w an expiring contract.

Would be even better if they took the $20M saved & put it into a pillow deal for SP they could flip at deadline.

But if they ask for org SP depth as return for Donny then I will take issue.

I’m willing to die on the Donovan for Emmett Sheehan hill.

If not Sheehan specifically, he’s the sort of speculative/high upside move I’d support bc he’s young, controllable, and has preformed. To your point, the Donnie shouldn’t be like Gray, where a MiLB SP is the center piece of the return.

Funny, bc arguably the best piece we got in any of those trades was Saggese (Monty).

This is memory/possible conjecture, but I remember there being several times Reyes name came up in major trade talks before his debut. Then the (obviously stupid by today’s standard) pot suspension, injuries, etc.

Cardinals had a $45M asset and traded him for $0 in return. His subsequent value and performance are irrelevant.

Not the point.

Are you familiar w the concept of opportunity lost? The contract he signed in FA shows what his value was at the time we traded him. The guys we got back have provided $0 in value. Thats a trade deficit of close to $50M.

SF also did the stupidest thing possible by making him a SP.

Flaherty and Monty might be exceptions to that but FOR SURE Carlson, Bro, Helsley.

Alex Reyes withered on the vine. Same w CMart to a lesser extent.

Gorman and Walker are trending that direction.

Hicks signed a $45M deal AFTER we traded him for nothing. Def wasn’t a salary dump

You can skip the gym, but if you’re old like me remember to stretch and warm up before you get out there bc your lower back is gonna mutiny if you don’t.

I get, and agree w your general concept. These guys aren’t Randy A, that said, that’s a lot of talent to give up w the best return being a MLB bench/utility player who is already a poor-man’s version of both Donovan and Wetherholt (Saggese).

Bro hit 31 dingers w a 135 OPS+ last year. Both of the pitchers we got in return are no longer w the organization.

Hicks signed a $45M contract, a pretty good indication of his value. Klopfenstein is gone and Robberse was just let go and resigned to an MiLB deal so he didn’t take up a 40 man spot.

06/07 was my senior year 🙌

That was a hell of a team.

Where’s this negativity when I’m down in the dumps about our Deacs?! 😉

*better record

There are only 5 teams w a worse record and they’re still the 3 seed with a chance at a bye.

Not sure I’d categorize that as tanking, even tho the last two weeks have been rough.