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er2023.bsky.social
ER 🇪🇺
@er2023.bsky.social
🇬🇧resident since 1996,LB Camden resident since 2004,🇪🇺Citizen,Queue Jumper (c)Theresa May, Squalid Chapter (c)Keir Starmer,pro-EU,Social Liberal,aiming to be as woke as I can & a bit green-ish+pro-saving the world,against all forms of racism,own views.He/Him
True.
I still noticed this in the Reuters article: "[Starmer] has also taken a leading role in co-ordinating European support for Ukraine." 😂
Ah, that notion of British "leadership", the British/English Miss Liberty guiding the free world, the good ol' Empire telling all other countries what to do🤦‍♂️
November 29, 2025 at 8:37 AM
And I'm accusing GCs of dismissing the concerns of cis-gender women who may not conform to gender stereotypes,which should be allowed.
At the end of the day,I don't have a position that would satisfy e/b.Maybe we could start w/ a position of respect & just say that what happened to Hannah is wrong?
November 28, 2025 at 9:30 PM
So you are saying that Hannah was harassed on the basis of her perceived sex?
Sex is also a protected characteristic...
November 28, 2025 at 9:22 PM
Do you have anything to support your opinion?
Harassment can be both a civil and a criminal matter, and ultimately it's for the Police to make that determination.
As per point 4/n above, the Crown Prosecution Service seems to disagree with you...
November 28, 2025 at 9:18 PM
NB: I responded with a "legal" angle, but you may want just to ask yourself if this behaviour is acceptable from a "human kindness" perspective, or just from the point of view of "respect" to others.
November 28, 2025 at 9:10 PM
As said, neither intent, nor the perception of a protected characteristic being an actual fact, are per-requisites.
"Genuinely" is in my view irrelevant at law. But I could be wrong, not an expert.
November 28, 2025 at 9:10 PM
Do you have anything to support your opinion?
On the basis of the definitions above, the CPS guidance for "hate crimes", bearing in mind that neither intent, nor the perception being an actual fact, are pre-requisites, I believe it was.
I for one would like the matter tested in court 🙂.
November 28, 2025 at 9:05 PM
Ha! 💯 agreed 🙂
As it were, I was typing this ⬇️ in parallel to you typing your first response 🙂
bsky.app/profile/er20...
Re. women being challenged because they don't "look feminine enough", here is what I would respectfully suggest 🙂
I will refer to the law because;
1) It's hopefully a framework of reference that we all accept; and
2) The legislation in question (Equality Act 2010) has been in place since 2010. 1/n
November 28, 2025 at 9:00 PM
Are you both accusing Hannah Botterman of being a liar when she says she was challenged for being in a women's toilet,as a result of which she's now scared of accessing the only loos open to her?
It doesn't matter if she's "recognisably female",if the person(s) challenging her was/were idiots.
November 28, 2025 at 8:58 PM
It's of course for Hannah to decide how she wants to treat these incidents, incl. whether to take the matter to court.

But it's also for each and everyone of us to be aware of what we are doing when we are e.g.,"challenging" somebody else. Needless to say that hate crimes are a serious matter🙂.
7/7
November 28, 2025 at 8:45 PM
2) It was intimidating (and also probably humiliating) because she's now scared to access women's toilets.
And also safe to say that such conduct was motivated by a perception of gender reassignment,and/or of her sex,and even possibly by her sexual orientation. And therefore if was a hate crime.6/n
November 28, 2025 at 8:43 PM
I think it's reasonably safe to say that Hannah Botterman has been the victim of harassment, on the basis of 1) the conduct of challenging her being in a women's toilet was unwanted (NB: intention is not a pre-condition); and

5/n
November 28, 2025 at 8:43 PM
Harassment becomes a hate crime if it is based on a protected characteristic, or "just" a perceived protected characteristic e.g., somebody is perceived as being a trans-gender person ⬇️
www.cps.gov.uk/sites/defaul...

4/n
November 28, 2025 at 8:41 PM
Section 26 in the Equality Act provides the definition under the law of "harassment" ⬇️.
www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/1...

The Equality Act also defines "protected characteristics" as including, gender reassignment, sex, and sexual orientation ⬇️
www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/1...

3/n
November 28, 2025 at 8:39 PM
The Equality Act is one of the last Acts of Parliament passed by the Brown government, which has survived (relatively unmodified afaik) 14 years of conservative government. Hence, it should be relatively uncontroversial regardless of anyone's political leanings. 2/n
November 28, 2025 at 8:36 PM
Re. women being challenged because they don't "look feminine enough", here is what I would respectfully suggest 🙂
I will refer to the law because;
1) It's hopefully a framework of reference that we all accept; and
2) The legislation in question (Equality Act 2010) has been in place since 2010. 1/n
November 28, 2025 at 8:35 PM
Should Hannah Botterman be allowed to practice her sport (women's rugby) without being harassed or her sex or gender being questioned? 3/3
November 28, 2025 at 7:39 PM
Hannah Botterman happens to be openly a lesbian.
Should she be allowed in women's toilets? Is it acceptable that she should be challenged based on her appearance when accessing women's toilets? Is it right that she should be scared to go in women's toilets on her own? 2/3
November 28, 2025 at 7:39 PM
Food for thought...
As a reminder, the hysteria, and even hatred, against trans-women also affects cis-gender women.
Hannah Botterman is a biological woman, who is not a trans-man. She just chooses a "look" that does not conform to gender-stereotypes (e.g., short hair).
1/2
bsky.app/profile/jame...
November 28, 2025 at 7:28 PM
As a proud nationalist, I'm sure Coburn would berate anyone who wouldn't speak English (and who would speak French in particular) in the UK.
This is in France.
Why don't they speak to him in French?
I'd like to hear how well he can speak French, since he lives there - he must integrate!
November 28, 2025 at 5:20 PM
In early Christian times, there may have been no state or welfare.
Nevertheless, this ⬇️ looks like an early version of "socialism" to me and nobody lacked anything.
Ms. Badenoch may want to read her New Testament again.

www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...
November 28, 2025 at 4:41 PM
And of course still seeing the EU as "a market" (the Single Market) to trade with, to sell UK stuff to, something to address the UK's reduced GDP, not something larger, a more ambitious project than just trade.
It will take time...
November 28, 2025 at 12:46 PM