I was in and out of the room so didn't hear the full chat.

I saw Shaky sharing a bill with Misty In Roots at a benefit for the Communist Party of Great Britain.

I was *very* surprised at the trajectory of his later career.

"who had a UK number one single with the song Ebb Tide?"

Or the 18th Century forgotten novel "Hegseth Goes to The Hague In The Year Of Plague"

There was 18 months of frantic energy & inventiveness : dozens of really good 7" 45s and a massive shift within the UK music industry.
The Year Zero bores are wrong for a lot of reasons but the fall-out was massive e.g. I can draw a straight line from Buzzcocks to Depeche Mode & Human League

I also love Orson Welles and am obsessed by him.

that's sad news. Always liked the Fred, seemed like a decent sort.