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y'all might be interested in our approach. data-star.dev
Life get a lot easier when you put state in the right place and keep things declarative.
Datastar
The hypermedia framework.
data-star.dev
October 20, 2025 at 7:23 PM
Hypermedia is production of state. If you think that's trolling this is the wrong career for you
October 10, 2025 at 1:01 PM
You must be pretty new to what the concept of hypermedia is. Welcome! Lots to learn!
October 10, 2025 at 7:33 AM
You can do it, but man is it a bad idea
October 10, 2025 at 7:17 AM
To be clear, Datastar doesn't use crdts as a recommended approach because local first for a hypermedia engine (the browser) is the mother of bad ideas for the web
October 10, 2025 at 7:16 AM
Via your server, ironically the exact same way are your "local" which still gets all it's state from the backend. Seriously why not just make a real native app? It'll be smaller faster and less battery drain on your users?
October 10, 2025 at 7:11 AM
I didn't tell you shit. I mentioned that being excited to hit use standards in the browser is weird. Yes, but crdts are always a massive tradeoff. I think most apps in real world are closer to bank apps where local first makes zero sense
October 10, 2025 at 7:09 AM
We have approaches that save orders of magnitude less data (up to 6000x in prod) and work great in 3g on embedded devices. Try that with your svelte app
October 10, 2025 at 6:53 AM
Show me where Datastar doesn't work offline? Show me where it doesn't have the fastest signal approach? data-on-offline? Must be easy to right things of when you have no idea what something is.
October 10, 2025 at 6:50 AM
If you think it's like live view you have no idea what you are talking about. I'm not selling you on anything. Please tell me what is lacking since you are clearly in the know
October 10, 2025 at 6:41 AM
Carson can't more about vibes than performance or actual complexity. You are right, I'm an asshole. You 💯 should keep focusing on what you are doing!
October 10, 2025 at 6:37 AM
I think it's really neat that you figured out how to get data from fairies instead of the network. That's really neat!
October 10, 2025 at 6:34 AM
Cuz you have a build step, and have to send down a new version with any changes. It's the most anti hypermedia idea possible. The browser is a hypermedia engine and the fact you don't see the connection tells me a lot
October 10, 2025 at 6:24 AM
You don't have to show a loading spinner. Seems like you haven't read the guide and don't grok it's not HTMX. Good luck with your offline app using a ... checks notes... hypermedia browser. When I want offline first I make apps in C cause what you are doing seems like the worst of each approach
October 10, 2025 at 6:22 AM
I care about performance of the system at a whole. Glad you like svelte syntax but it's seems like a vapid reason to choose a workflow.
October 10, 2025 at 6:12 AM