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Moderator thanks the panelists.

As the summit moves into small breakout groups to discuss solutions, CodeRedTO will sign off. Continue the discussion tagged to #StreetcarSummit !
November 23, 2025 at 7:51 PM
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Final lightning round items on how to improve things:

- fixing the streetcars themselves (slow doors, don't buy such heavy vehicles, move the PRESTO readers to better locations, ...)

- add cowpusher to the front of each streetcar: panelists seem supportive, one rating it as […]
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November 23, 2025 at 7:49 PM
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Streetcar slow orders, per Munro: "This is a TTC culture issue."
November 23, 2025 at 7:45 PM
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Moderator gives panelists small whiteboards for a "lightning round" to rate transit solutions out of 10.

- Active signal priority: "popular, at least it's over 5"
- Banning on-street parking (at certain times of day): some conflict amongst the panel as this exists but is […]
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November 23, 2025 at 7:44 PM
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Moderator Puhakka asks Puranauth what we can do as advocates to make our voices heard?

"Speak up. Toronto is a transit city." Everyone takes transit and knows someone who takes transit. Complaining about transit is a favourite past-time.

"We have a lot of power as transit […]
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November 23, 2025 at 7:35 PM
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Puhakka asks English what idea he'd take from anywhere in the world to apply here.

He speaks about Berlin's temporary modular streetcar tracks to deviate around construction. Our limited network resilience - an issue for the subways as well - really impacts reliability.

Also […]
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November 23, 2025 at 7:32 PM
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Munro also mentions that streetcar lines are all being increased in frequency over last year and this year, and that can help. Line management important of course.

"If you're not as a city willing to pay for it, it ain't gonna happen."

Notes that fare freezes, a common goal […]
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November 23, 2025 at 7:29 PM
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Munro: Notes that we now finally have more streetcars than we had 20 years ago, as the newest order has been completed. 260+ cars, but we only ever operate 165 at peak. "Ridiculous spare ratio".

Similar situation in the bus network with a substantial surplus of buses. "Why are […]
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November 23, 2025 at 7:26 PM
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English notes that the King Street restaurant owners complaining about streetcar priority was the best advertising - "every single person knew the TTC was doing something" to improve things.

Publicizing improvements is vital.
November 23, 2025 at 7:24 PM
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English: "There are a lot of things we can do - I'll save route management for Steve"

"With the fleet that we have, we could probably improve service" - there are dozens of streetcars sitting idle every day.

"Fundamentally, service is the critical factor." "For decades we had […]
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November 23, 2025 at 7:22 PM
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Puranauth: "Maybe not tomorrow, according to the City, but Transit signal priority." Notes that Spadina car in its own lane still stops constantly at traffic signals "Really, just switch it on."

Longer-term solutions: "We have to start thinking differently about our streets." […]
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November 23, 2025 at 7:16 PM
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Puhakka tells a story of his experience on the 506 College, and how a 3-leg trip using subway frequently makes more sense despite the much longer distance.

Next question: "What are some solutions to the streetcar system's issues which could be implemented tomorrow?"
November 23, 2025 at 7:14 PM
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Puranauth: "there's no single answer" he begins, echoing many of the points of the other panelists.

"If people can't rely on the streetcar system, they're going to switch to alternatives."

Mentions the guy who raced every streetcar on foot and won, even when the streetcar […]
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November 23, 2025 at 7:11 PM
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English brings up travel time, and the current slow movement being unacceptable for most riders. "We wonder why people aren't taking them as much as they were in 1975... well that's a big part of it."

"Not a very competitive, attractive way to get around downtown. Thankfully […]
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November 23, 2025 at 7:09 PM
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English, noting Munro takes all the best points when he goes first, starts with discussion of the batttle between Metro Toronto planning the TTC planning - the U versus the Bloor line.

Some modeling showed transit would only be used when the roads were crowded (!), but funding […]
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November 23, 2025 at 7:07 PM
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Side note: if you're at the summit, you can get some of the very last Transit City buttons from 2006 at the back of the room. Stay tuned for new buttons and magnets soon to celebrate the openings of Line 6 Finch and Line 5 Eglinton too, when those happen!
November 23, 2025 at 7:04 PM
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Munro also notes that transit riders move in many ways, throughout neighbourhoods, not only along rapid transit lines.

Describes the Ontario Line ("which will be quite valuable") in context with its history and the original Queen Subway plans that closely map some elements of […]
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November 23, 2025 at 7:03 PM
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Next question: "why are streetcars not working for transit riders?"

Munro: "operative word is rider, preson going from point A to point B. If service doesn't do that..."

Then he notes that TTC Chair Jamaal Myers has exited the event, and that the specific details of service […]
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November 23, 2025 at 7:00 PM
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August Pantitlán Puranauth: Begins with story of his family coming to Canada and living in Parkdale - quite different from the minibuses more common in South America.

Surveys the crowd asking who has taken, and who has enjoyed, streetcar replacement buses.

"What this shows is […]
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November 23, 2025 at 6:59 PM
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Jonathan English: "I agree with Steve". Notes that TTC streetcars have been "bleeding ridership", not for lack of interest or people, but a lack of service.

Notes that the challenges the TTC has with operating streetcar routes are "not inevitable." "It's part of Toronto' […]
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November 23, 2025 at 6:56 PM
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Munro, continued: Riders even downtown are choosing cars due to lack of reliability. City is growing, streetcar capacity is useful, but "the real crunch... we have built a new highrise suburb downtown" without any high-capacity or frequent transit service.
November 23, 2025 at 6:53 PM