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AvGeek, aviation professional, 🇪🇺, tweet in EN, DE, FR. Structural dynamics, aeroelastics and aircraft performance. Turboprop aficionado.
Glad to see they "stand ready", and I hope they will continue "standing ready" for a very long time 😉
November 27, 2025 at 5:18 PM
Good points. In any case, I think the failure cascade must have been a bit more complicated than what is immediately apparent.
November 8, 2025 at 9:11 PM
Yes, there are flashes visible in the video, however I wouldn't be sure to say what exactly that was and from which engine, if from an engine.
November 8, 2025 at 11:21 AM
By the way, the NTSB seems to be just as flummoxed by this aspect, they brought a vehicle performance expert into the investigation.
November 8, 2025 at 11:18 AM
Yes, maybe.
November 8, 2025 at 9:27 AM
... from the fire on where #1 was. Possible, maybe, at high angle of attack, I don't know.
D) a functioning engine being shut down, highly speculative.
E) something else I didn't see yet.
November 8, 2025 at 9:27 AM
Exactly. Something kept the remaining engines from properly functioning.
That could have been:
A) Debris from the loss of the first engine impacting #3, not likely, but possible.
B) Debris impacting engine #2, even less likely, but also possible.
C) engine #2 ingesting combusted air...
November 8, 2025 at 9:27 AM
🧐 Believe it or not, these aircraft are designed to be able to climb on two engines only. The bank angle was a consequence of collisions -> a consequence, not a cause.
November 8, 2025 at 9:19 AM
"Deine Mudda halluziniert."
November 7, 2025 at 1:51 PM
Best summary of Chicago accident:
www.faa.gov/lessons_lear...
www.faa.gov
November 6, 2025 at 1:26 AM
A whole set of new questions popping up.
Also, probably a lot of people thinking "Chicago"
November 6, 2025 at 12:13 AM
Reposted by AvGeeknologist
My thoughts are obviously with the victims, but they are also with the NTSB investigators who, tomorrow, will dig through half a mile of toxic debris to find the black boxes, all without being paid. Godspeed.
November 5, 2025 at 3:16 AM
Sorry, should read "even on two engines", as it's a three engine aircraft, not twin.
I'm always thinking "twin" these days, there are so few three-holers.
November 5, 2025 at 6:57 AM
Ah, sorry, I was thinking B777, hence, "one engine operating".
As it was an MD-11, it's "two engines operating ".
The thrust loss on one engine is always covered in terms of aircraft performance on large (=multi engine) aircraft.
November 5, 2025 at 6:55 AM
Oh dear. At what point in time and space did the engine detach?
November 5, 2025 at 6:49 AM
For a length of ~8 seconds , there is no discernible climb of the aircraft. That means there's not enough thrust-to-weight or/and too little lift-over-drag.
Note that thrust, even on one engine, should be sufficient to climb, hence, the thrust loss on one engine alone is NOT enough to explain this.
November 5, 2025 at 6:45 AM