The sleeves up thing is another thing the other Tories did. They must have gone on the same courses.

I was all for it, but it's been a fiasco and lost all credibility.

Absolutely, I was well up for it before the fiasco of the launch and other things since, just lost credibility for me before it was even off the ground.

Our conversation about immigration is framed entirely on Nigel Farage’s terms.
Labour has completely capitulated the ground to the far right, the racism & the hate.

We no longer have a conversation AT ALL about how we need immigration & when we cut it, we pay the price. #r4today

They were throwing punches, famously.

Says Mr snake oil himself

Starmer's party that you championed is knee deep in it too.