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“If only I knew where the sky was!”

Rinoa :
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like sure you want a manga where there hero defeats powerful enemies with "ingenuity" but like, I'm sure that exists so go read that! (also 90% of "tech-based heroes" end up just being "I invented a machine that punches hard)
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god I encountered a rant post about MHA on reddit and was unfortunately reminded there's still a whole genre of person who's mad the story wasn't about Deku being a quirkless hero.

like, All Might offers him One For All in the FIRST FUCKING CHAPTER. get over it it's been a decade!
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Free Will - Ruppina

#Anime #Animesky #Ending #AnimeEnding #TopOPED #OnePiece #OP #EiichiroOda #Toei #ToeiAnimation
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didn't think i could be more angry about Yuri on Ice and then I read this
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We're probably never going to see another Sayo Yamamoto anime, and that honestly breaks my heart more than I have words to convey. I feel so much anger on her behalf. Fuck MAPPA.

animehunch.com/exclusive-an...
Animehunch Team: You’ve worked as a producer on many popular titles, including Black Clover and Fullmetal Alchemist. However, you were also involved with Yuri!!! on ICE. This is something fans are desperate to ask about. The planned movie, ICE ADOLESCENCE, was officially cancelled by MAPPA, which left many fans heartbroken as they loved the series dearly. We know this is a sensitive topic, and you may not be able to discuss it, but fans would be incredibly grateful for any insight you could offer as to what went wrong or why the movie was ultimately cancelled. Hideo Katsumata: I can’t talk about the details, as that includes some very private matters. But if you ask whether it’s a creative or business issue, the reasons stem from the creative side. The main reason is that it couldn’t be made due to creative reasons. Since it was an original animation, the people involved—including the creators and the animation studio, MAPPA… among the creators, on the creative side, a situation arose where it just became impossible to proceed with production.
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It's taken a couple of days to really gather my thoughts on this, but MAPPA destroying Sayo Yamamoto as they have is something I'll never be able to reconcile. She was a brilliant creator who deserved the world, but was ground into paste by The Anime Factory.

I pray for Manabu Otsuka's downfall.
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We're probably never going to see another Sayo Yamamoto anime, and that honestly breaks my heart more than I have words to convey. I feel so much anger on her behalf. Fuck MAPPA.

animehunch.com/exclusive-an...
Animehunch Team: You’ve worked as a producer on many popular titles, including Black Clover and Fullmetal Alchemist. However, you were also involved with Yuri!!! on ICE. This is something fans are desperate to ask about. The planned movie, ICE ADOLESCENCE, was officially cancelled by MAPPA, which left many fans heartbroken as they loved the series dearly. We know this is a sensitive topic, and you may not be able to discuss it, but fans would be incredibly grateful for any insight you could offer as to what went wrong or why the movie was ultimately cancelled. Hideo Katsumata: I can’t talk about the details, as that includes some very private matters. But if you ask whether it’s a creative or business issue, the reasons stem from the creative side. The main reason is that it couldn’t be made due to creative reasons. Since it was an original animation, the people involved—including the creators and the animation studio, MAPPA… among the creators, on the creative side, a situation arose where it just became impossible to proceed with production.
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lmao I watched up till the end of s8 and I literally realised at the finale that this show was just gonna be repeating the same arcs again and again and I never watched another episode
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its always the problem with anything long running like if it was 2-3 seasons and they knew it you can write a complete arc but when you're just dragging it out forever- 💀
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it doesn't help when ppl spent too much time focusing on one part of the story so they discount actually important stuff (again I'm thinking of All Might bc of this weeks episode like him + deku + bakugo's relationship is like the CORE of the series and LoV fans just don't see it at all)
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OUAT's problem is there's two villains who do have redemption baked into their arcs but bc the show just keeps going its a constant back of forth between them being evil and good and it gets to the point where like, the heroes showing mercy is literally causing more death
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yeah I was thinking a lot about the "villain stan" side of the MHA fandom who really just want to read an alternate universe where all the pro heroes are bad (including ALL MIGHT of all people!!!) and the LoV are freedom fighters and like so bro you've been marinating in fanon for too long
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+ fits all them rarely works well, you gotta tailor them to the character and the world.

@solthali.bsky.social thread
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+ existing motivations rather than lobomitising them into a "good guy" (which often happens in the "keep the villain around" type of redemptions)

anyway this was way ramblier than I intended but in conclusion redemption arcs cover a whole load of different kind of stories and trying to one size +
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+ death" bc yeah, on the one hand it is usually a cheap way of not having to deal with the complexity of having the ex-villain still around. But at the same time its not a "rejection" or a message that they "didn't deserve redemption" it can well be a logical conclusion to their arc based on their +
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+ fan demand can often be for the villain to be forgiven completely and slot into the main cast, sometimes even with the heroes having to apologise to the VILLAIN for not "understanding" them (MHA VILLAIN FANDOM I AM LOOKING AT YOU)

this is also how you get the backlash against "redemption equals+
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In addition, there's the issue that in a lot of long running shows, redemption arcs are a way to keep fan favourite villains around, so they end up feeling manufactured from the get go since said villain wasn't exactly planned with a redemption arc in mind. This is made worse by the fact that+
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+extremely harsh standards, the most annoying of which is the moral obligation to be forgiving towards "reformed" villains, which end up feeling less like a real message about forgiveness and more the writers trying to force a redemption arc without the hard stuff (OUAT I'm looking at you)
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+ takes itself seriously at all so the fact the Vegeta has casually murdered thousands of people is swept under the rug so we can enjoy romcom humour with him and Bulma.

But the more seriously a show takes its morality the harder it is to pull off, especially when the heroes are judged by+
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+ them, especially in the case of very large scale villainy or villainy against people who aren't the protagonists

this can be very dependent on the tone of the series - for example, people don't really complain that much about Vegeta turning "good" in DBZ because its not a series that +
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problem is that a lot of writers seem to think them in themselves are redemption arcs, and fail to actually show said villains become a better person. they just join the good guys team and their sins are kind of ignored, and thats because the writers know that it's too hard to actually deal with +
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there's "the villain had a freudian excuse for their actions". again this can be combined with a redemption arc but on its own "the villain has reasons for their actions past 1 dimensional comic book villainy and has actually been victimised in their life" does not mean they are redeemed
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there's "the villain was actually misunderstood the whole time and was actually doing good". now this can be *combined* with a redemption arc if the villain was doing genuinely bad stuff but can also be played completely straight like they didn't do any crimes at all and were framed or something
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so first we gotta define a "Redemption Arc" - in general, this refers to a previously morally bad character over the course of their character development turning good

this is the first hurdle bc a lot of arcs that ppl refer to as redemption arcs aren't actually that
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ok its the evening but whatever

THREAD: redemption arcs and why they're often annoying and stupid
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watching Once Upon A Time and its giving me thoughts about "redemption arcs" in genre fiction and how a lot of them really don't do it well

will do a full thread in the morning maybe but tl:dr just doing a tragic backstory for the villain doesn't cut it