John Rogers
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Joining the exodus - hopefully leaving the antiscience idiots to pat each other on their backs in peace
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Dude I’m just pointing out that you unwillingly support the monsters by refusing to engage in the game that is democracy. If you think the game is rigged then you aren’t wrong but it gives you and me a chance to influence it. In a world of billions that’s not a bad deal.
Don’t you see that ideological purity and lack of pragmatism directly supports not just genociders but those who want to remove the freedoms you have to complain about it. You don’t get an option not to support anyone in a democracy. That’s the deal 🤷‍♂️
Right now the winner of that election is making it bloody dangerous to even fight for a cause he doesn’t agree with - he’s a step back on almost every front. Especially on bringing Netanyahu to any sort of justice
I’m really not sure why this is so hard. That’s what democracy is, a messy compromise.

To fight for a cause but refuse to vote pragmatically on it is like eating your own face off.
Simple definitely applies, you are right. No candidate or party with a chance of influencing policy at the last election stood on a promise of ending genocide. Trump laughable stood on stopping the war immediately.

So given those are the options you look at who gets you closest to your objective.
He’d lost the election he was a lame duck what could he do at that stage?
Did you not read the article at the top of this? What exactly do you think Netanyahu was blowing smoke in his face over?
I’m only blaming them for a profound lack of pragmatism in achieving their goals. Sure let’s work on the other stuff too!

Is trump fixing that? I haven’t checked in recently!
Seriously? You think AOC, Sanders, Tlaib, Lee, Balint, would be precisely as powerless in a word where the Dems had held congress or Harris had won?
It’s like you pretend the political situation simply didn’t exist. The democrats get a lot of money from people who vigorously support the concept of a well armed Isreal.

You need money to win elections.

These aren’t pleasant realities but they are a feature of American politics.
I think the news article is hard to interpret in any other way. If Biden had not become a lame duck yes it seems it was on the table
Yes for quite understandable but nonetheless unpleasant political reasons.

But regardless would those politicians have more sway if she had won or lost?
Sorry getting a peace deal isn’t opposing the genocide now?
We’re replying to a thread where the news of how close Biden was to getting a deal over the line at the end of last year. So remind me how they weren’t doing it?
Sorry to be clear the only party with a capacity to wield any power
But she represented the only political party that did have politicians expressing that.
I’m only expecting that people who oppose a genocide, like I do, act in a way most likely to stop it.
I knew that too? What I’m asking is what did cheering the democrats defeat help that cause or hinder it?
Something like 20k bodies are there precisely because trump won.

It’s time to own the mistake.
And did you achieve with your actions?
It didn’t go through because the thing you wanted (a democrat bloody nose) happened
It didn’t go through because trump had won you clutz