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Damien Gribbon @omengribbon.bsky.social · 21h

Fine... since you can't google for yourself. He's a websters definition

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/a...

Definition of ANTI-VAX

anti-vaccination… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

Damien Gribbon @omengribbon.bsky.social · 21h

You're a big boy. Learn to google for yourself.

Also

bsky.app/profile/impl...

Farrukh @implausibleblog.bsky.social · 2d

US Secretary of State for Health RFK Jr,

"There is no vaccine that is, you know, safe and effective"

Anyone else worried about these nonsensical conspiracy theories being mainstreamed?

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Damien Gribbon @omengribbon.bsky.social · 21h

Full circle.

bsky.app/profile/impl...

Farrukh @implausibleblog.bsky.social · 2d

US Secretary of State for Health RFK Jr,

"There is no vaccine that is, you know, safe and effective"

Anyone else worried about these nonsensical conspiracy theories being mainstreamed?

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Damien Gribbon @omengribbon.bsky.social · 21h

RFK is most certainly anti-vax. He was during the outbreak in American Samoa, and he is still. Please refer to the very first video at the top of all this tread.

It is not a BS term!

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Damien Gribbon @omengribbon.bsky.social · 22h

Assuming you agree that MMR vaccinations could have saved those children. Then I think the only thing we disagree on is the overall contribution of RFK and his NP to the disaster.

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Damien Gribbon @omengribbon.bsky.social · 23h

I give the original links. But it's so obvious that you don't look at anything.

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Damien Gribbon @omengribbon.bsky.social · 23h

That's from Nov 2019. By then the nurses that caused the original issue had already been found guilty, and sentenced.

It was while children were dying of measles, he tried to push more disinformation.

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Damien Gribbon @omengribbon.bsky.social · 23h

1) Anti-vax misinformation is not limited to saying it "kills babies". And he's been pushing his BS for years. Your questioning this shows how much of a bad faith actor you are. He's doing it today FFS

2) pulitzercenter.org/stories/samo...

it was also brought up during his confirmation hearing.

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Damien Gribbon @omengribbon.bsky.social · 23h

He went on the invite of antivaxers to help push antivax. Which he did! Even going so far as to try an coax the PM during the outbreak that the deaths were from the MMR vaccine.

You're entire position is that he influences no one. Otherwise you have to admit he bears some responsibility.

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Damien Gribbon @omengribbon.bsky.social · 23h

Which of these do you think are untrue prior to AS deadly outbreak
1) Antivax influencers, including RFKs non-profit, RFK himself and local influencers were pushing antivax misinformation to the people of AS
2) During actual outbreak, RFK tried to persuade the PM of AS that deaths were caused by MMR

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Damien Gribbon @omengribbon.bsky.social · 1d

So you accept that they spread anti-vax misinformation, but think it wasn't "significant".

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Damien Gribbon @omengribbon.bsky.social · 1d

Providing a link is more than you. Also, when they show his NP pushed anti-vax on the island, or that his trip was organised by anti-vax, or that he even pushed it to the PM during outbreak.

You the argue that the sentiment was only due to the unfortunate accident.

You're a cult mate!

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Damien Gribbon @omengribbon.bsky.social · 1d

You ignore all the links regarding AS and you ignore everything RFK is doing RIGHt now also.

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Damien Gribbon @omengribbon.bsky.social · 1d

The files have been safely stored in the East Wing of the White House....

Damien Gribbon @omengribbon.bsky.social · 1d

Honestly, It's surprising, but it looks like he would have told them to use unproven medicine. I mean, if he's doing it now, then it's likely that he did it back then too.

He might have even more blood on his hands than I thought.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/article...

Measles cases pick up as RFK promotes unproven treatments

There are over 250 cases of measles in at least a dozen states across the US.

www.bbc.co.uk

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Damien Gribbon @omengribbon.bsky.social · 1d

So your confusion is that you thought I was saying RFK was responsible for the injection accident.

No, I'm saying that he and his anti-vax ilk, capitalised on the fear of the island population to spread additional fears about mmr, further reducing vaccine uptake. Also as per article

During the outbreak, Kennedy continued to spread doubt about the MMR vaccine. In a Nov. 19, 2019, letter to Samoa’s prime minister, Kennedy claimed the MMR vaccines were potentially killing people. “It is a regrettable possibility that these children are casualties of the [MMR] vaccine,” wrote Kennedy.

The letter was sent four days after the Samoan government issued a state of emergency. Sixteen people had already died.

“I thought he was such a selfish man,” said Jackson in response to Kennedy’s letter, “creating such confusion and doubt in Samoan minds about getting vaccinated.”

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Damien Gribbon @omengribbon.bsky.social · 1d

For RFK, you definitely would have to specify. He's been a long-time antivax. So much so that a search is like filling a thimble with a waterfall. My time is too precious.

You asked for an example. I gave one. Why don't you search and find him telling AS to take the MMR?

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Damien Gribbon @omengribbon.bsky.social · 1d

You said:
"Name me a relevant lie about mmr you are claiming that is relevant to RFK, jr. and parents deciding not to vaccinate their kids with mmr."

That's just a quick google search.... and it would be targetted at pro-lifers not to vaccinate their kids with MMR.

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Damien Gribbon @omengribbon.bsky.social · 1d

Actually, you posited
"RFK, jr. had nothing to do with it what happened there. He only arrived in the aftermath."

Well, his non-profit was pushing anti-vax ads, before he turned up in july 2019 for that personal touch. Which was BEFORE.

pulitzercenter.org/stories/samo...

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Damien Gribbon @omengribbon.bsky.social · 1d

first thing just picked of a search... you know he's said more.... he ran a fecking Non-Profit that was dedicated too it FFS

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Damien Gribbon @omengribbon.bsky.social · 1d

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/a...

RFK Jr doubles down on wild false claim MMR vaccine contains ‘aborted fetus debris’

The MMR vaccine is the most effective way for people to protect themselves against measles, mumps, and rubella, asserts the CDC

www.independent.co.uk

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Damien Gribbon @omengribbon.bsky.social · 1d

It was ACCIDENTALLY mixed with a muscle relaxant. The 2 nurses in question ended up getting 5 years for their negligence. The accident has nothing to do with MMR efficacy or safety!

lol. Nice strawman regarding RFK. How about you google how often he shits on MMR and other vaccines.

Farrukh @implausibleblog.bsky.social · 2d

US Secretary of State for Health RFK Jr,

"There is no vaccine that is, you know, safe and effective"

Anyone else worried about these nonsensical conspiracy theories being mainstreamed?

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Damien Gribbon @omengribbon.bsky.social · 1d

You're not the sharpest LLM in the toolkit if you didn't follow.

2018, two babies died due to accidental injection of muscle relaxant, not mmr.

2019, 81 people died; mostly children; because people capitalised on a bad situation to spread more lies about mmr.

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Damien Gribbon @omengribbon.bsky.social · 1d

Did he just say "The lost 2 out of the last 3 elections".... Well, at least Jesse is declaring that Trump lost 2020.

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Damien Gribbon @omengribbon.bsky.social · 1d

other link that mentioned the ads. Wasn't enough room in last post.
pulitzercenter.org/stories/samo...

Samoa’s Tragedy and RFK Jr.’s Alleged Role

Part three of Tragedy in Paradise, an Atlanta News First investigation shedding light on potential consequences of declining vaccination rates. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOZnUjMnzdU SAMOA —...

pulitzercenter.org

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