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Mark Dalgleish @markdalgleish.com · 2d

I just created the “Remix 3 Resources” repo, collecting useful links related to Remix 3.

It has *super* granular links to the Remix Jam live stream for each API, feature and demo, plus a bunch of demo apps and 3rd party integration examples.

github.com/markdalgleis...

GitHub - markdalgleish/remix3-resources: A collection of useful links relating to Remix 3

A collection of useful links relating to Remix 3. Contribute to markdalgleish/remix3-resources development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

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Matt Brophy @brophdawg11.com · 2d

Touch areas are suuuuper tiny on mobile but can still use it

brophdawg11.github.io/remix-jam-mk...

Remix Jam

brophdawg11.github.io

Matt Brophy @brophdawg11.com · 2d

This is why we can’t have nice things 😂

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Matt Brophy @brophdawg11.com · 2d

Sick enhancement from @rossipedia.com here.

Now I need to hear sick beats from all of you since I'm not musically talented. Added some logic to sync the beat to the URL and deployed to GH pages. Share your beats in the replies!

brophdawg11.github.io/remix-jam-mk...

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Matt Brophy @brophdawg11.com · 2d

brophdawg11.github.io/remix-jam-mk...

Remix Jam

brophdawg11.github.io

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Matt Brophy @brophdawg11.com · 2d

Once I finish battling github pages we'll be able to actually share these

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Matt Brophy @brophdawg11.com · 2d

github.com/rossipedia/r...

Store bpm/patterns in URL for sharing by brophdawg11 · Pull Request #1 · rossipedia/remix-jam-mk2

Shareable URLs 🥁 http://localhost:44100/?bpm=120&patterns=101010101010101010000000100000101100100000111010

github.com

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Matt Brophy @brophdawg11.com · 2d

How would we sell all this sweet mech then?!? shop.remix.run

Home

Soft wear for engineers of all kinds

shop.remix.run

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Matt Brophy @brophdawg11.com · 2d

I like to think we brought the excitement to a much larger community in RR personally. Download counts aren't the best metric, but RR was 20x the size of Remix at the time of v7. We've seen RR nearly double since we released v7 a year ago while it had been mostly stagnant in the year prior.

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Matt Brophy @brophdawg11.com · 2d

oh thats unfortunate - try this (my original board with both vertical and horizontal versions) excalidraw.com#json=VH1z3xm...

Excalidraw — Collaborative whiteboarding made easy

Excalidraw is a virtual collaborative whiteboard tool that lets you easily sketch diagrams that have a hand-drawn feel to them.

excalidraw.com

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Matt Brophy @brophdawg11.com · 2d

The upgrade path is Remix v2 -> React Router v7 and is non-breaking- that's a very easy sell.

There's no intended "migration path" from Remix v2/RR v7 to Remix 3, so there's nothing to sell there.

It is very much a new thing, but still trying to solve what Remix set out to solve originally IMO

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Matt Brophy @brophdawg11.com · 2d

Link to Brad's original tweet: x.com/bradwestfall...

Brad Westfall on X: "We're gonna need to clarify things https://t.co/DEnNR61Xif" / X

We're gonna need to clarify things https://t.co/DEnNR61Xif

x.com

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Matt Brophy @brophdawg11.com · 2d

This is related to another core issue

Migrating from RR to Remix was "easy" - swap a few packages, adopt incrementally, etc.

But sounded scary to bosses - no budget to "migrate to Remix" which hurt adoption

It was never a migration, it was an incremental upgrade - which is formalized with RR v7

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Matt Brophy @brophdawg11.com · 2d

Remix v1 proved out a slew of new ideas. It took a lot of work to port those back to React Router, but it made no sense to continue to restrict those features to a new framework (requiring SSR at the time). There were tons of React Router SPAs out there that deserved them.

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Matt Brophy @brophdawg11.com · 2d

In some ways, React Router ate Remix

I can't speak for Michael and Ryan, but IMO Remix has always been about embracing the server, the platform, and HTTP

Remix v1 did that on top of React and React Router

Remix 3 takes that further and removes dependencies so it can truly own the full stack

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Matt Brophy @brophdawg11.com · 2d

*record scratch* *freeze frame* Yep, that's me (Remix 3). You're probably wondering how I got here.

This is how I like to visualize/explain the evolution of Remix and React Router. I was nerd sniped by a diagram @bradwestfall.bsky.social posted the other day so I finally put pen to paper

"React Router ate Remix"

Excalidraw diagram showing the progression of Remix and React Router and how features kept being ported back into React Router until Remix wasn't really doing much anymore so we just upstreamed it all into RR v7

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Matt Brophy @brophdawg11.com · 5d

No - I think anything trying to be everything is doomed to fail. To much breadth, never enough depth.

The beauty is that the primitives, APIs, inherent simplicity, and lack of magic enables you (the app developer) to do a lot of interesting things with it.

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Matt Brophy @brophdawg11.com · 5d

Minus the React integration 😉

Matt Brophy @brophdawg11.com · 5d

yeah the event only scratched the surface of what this will unlock IMO

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Matt Brophy @brophdawg11.com · 5d

The Remix 3 server-side router is `fetch` based

which means it also runs in the browser

which means you can build a SPA router on top of it

with fine grained event-driven rendering if that's your jam

(it could also live in a service worker)

stackblitz.com/edit/vitejs-...

Vitejs - Vite (duplicated) - StackBlitz

Next generation frontend tooling. It's fast!

stackblitz.com

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Matt Brophy @brophdawg11.com · 5d

please share so I can make sick beats

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Matt Brophy @brophdawg11.com · 11d

Early adopter indeed 🙌

Matt Brophy @brophdawg11.com · 11d

I’m reaching the age of “checking my bag is just objectively easier so I don’t have to lug it around the airport and the 10-20 minutes to pick it up at the end don’t actually impact my trip” 👴🏻

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Matt Brophy @brophdawg11.com · 11d

Nice talk man! I was able to listen to the livestream on my drive to the airport. I’ll have to go rewatch the video once it posts

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Matt Brophy @brophdawg11.com · 11d

This is definitely not the case and is the reason I’m not playing golf with @jim-nielsen.com and @ricky.fm this week

Bret Little @bretlittle.com · 11d

Gotta wonder if the Remix folks intentionally planned Remix Jam the same week as React Conf, just two days day after 😳

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