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Somebody Sometimes an AI @bobhooker.bsky.social · 19m

During WW2 the US and UK developed bombs that were designed to fall through all levels of a house to reach the basement where civilians would shelter with the intention of killing workers in German factories hiding in their basements.

No aid shipments were allowed into Nazi territory

Somebody Sometimes an AI @bobhooker.bsky.social · 20m

During the battle of Berlin the allies provided no international shipments of food into the Nazi held territory during the battle, in fact the US conducted naval warfare against both Germany and Japan to prevent essential food reaching fascist nations.

Somebody Sometimes an AI @bobhooker.bsky.social · 21m

I would also point out that in WW2 at no point until the Nazis surrendered did the allies allow food and other aid suppies to flow into Nazi terroritory during the war. The fact that during the entire war aid was flowing into Gaza was utterly unlike the war the allies conducted the WW2

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Somebody Sometimes an AI @bobhooker.bsky.social · 23m

And in this war in Gaza, a specific group saw 223 out of 230 people suriving the war, this despite vast numbers of deaths among all levels of Hamas leadership including all their senior leaders.

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Somebody Sometimes an AI @bobhooker.bsky.social · 24m

So the actual fact that a group of people were not killed off now does not matter to decising if something is a genocide.

It seems wha you are saying is that something is a genocide because you say so, and what really happens does not matter.

Somebody Sometimes an AI @bobhooker.bsky.social · 25m

I hate to have to tell you but in war people suffer, war is hell. Electing to decide that Israel is genocidal simply because you don't want them to fight to gain the release of their civilians being held hostage is deeply problematic

Somebody Sometimes an AI @bobhooker.bsky.social · 26m

One again, the 'whole' of Gazan population, who were under the thumb of IDF total air control, saw 223 out of 230 people surviving. Where is the evidence of a policy to exterminate the people of Gaza?

Somebody Sometimes an AI @bobhooker.bsky.social · 27m

Lots of people have lots of opinions. Lawyers for the UK government, which unlike the UN is a democratic state with the worlds most respect independent judicary and civil service have determined a Genocide has not happened, but you elect to ignore those experts from the UK because you disagree

Somebody Sometimes an AI @bobhooker.bsky.social · 28m

Once again, by you own words, we have a war in which the IDF could strike anywhere they wanted, could bomb any camp they cared to bomb, and yet the war has left 223 out of 230 Gazans alive. Where is the Genocide?

Somebody Sometimes an AI @bobhooker.bsky.social · 30m

So you now speak for Blue Sky as a collective?

Somebody Sometimes an AI @bobhooker.bsky.social · 1h

Ceasefires when hostages are released does show that the goal of one side was the release of the hostages, THEIR PEOPLE, rather than the goal of extermination.

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Somebody Sometimes an AI @bobhooker.bsky.social · 1h

You said it was a legal definition, that was you words. Law requires the judgement of courts, that is the very essense of law. In any court case there is one side that says a crime has happened and another that says it has not.

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Somebody Sometimes an AI @bobhooker.bsky.social · 1h

So it seems you are saying that ALL WARS of ANY KIND are Genocides?

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Somebody Sometimes an AI @bobhooker.bsky.social · 1h

And yet somehow with all this, by your own words and despite 2 years of violent war on both sides 223 out of 230 Gazans are still alive.

Strange that?

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Somebody Sometimes an AI @bobhooker.bsky.social · 1h

So Gazans did not attack Israel, did not brutually kill over 1,000 civilians in a single day, did not take hostages, did not kille Israeli hostages in Gaza, did not launch 1,000s of rockets at Israel?

Somebody Sometimes an AI @bobhooker.bsky.social · 1h

Precisely Gaza was combat against Hamas, Hamas was holding Israelis hostage, who they were starving and even filmed being made to dig their own graves.

Somebody Sometimes an AI @bobhooker.bsky.social · 1h

Genocide is the intentional destruction of a entire group. Geno means a group or community, for a genocide to happen you need to have the destruction of everyone in a community, by your own assertion 223 out of 230 Gazans were not killed desptie the IDF having total military domination.

Somebody Sometimes an AI @bobhooker.bsky.social · 2h

Odd though that when the hostages were released the ceasefire came into effect which, despite some issues on both sides, is being honoured.

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Somebody Sometimes an AI @bobhooker.bsky.social · 2h

Well if it is legally define then you need a COURT ruling that a genocide happened. This has not happened so we have to await legal determination.

Somebody Sometimes an AI @bobhooker.bsky.social · 2h

As for displacement, giving people warning that war is going to impact certain areas so that they can leave before the fighting starts is not only NOT genocide, unlike Hamas it is in line with international law.

Somebody Sometimes an AI @bobhooker.bsky.social · 2h

I just read, did you read this thing, it talks about 'martyrs' who are people killed in conflict in aim for a goal. So it is saying that these were deaths in service of a military cause.

www.pcbs.gov.ps/post.aspx?It...

PCBS | H.E. Dr. Awad, presents a brief on the status of the Palestinian people at the end of 2023

PCBS State of Palestine Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics

www.pcbs.gov.ps

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Somebody Sometimes an AI @bobhooker.bsky.social · 2h

So any time a war kills members of a group it is a genocide?

So when the US and UK killed Germans that must have been a genocide, since the US and UK killed Germans who are a group, therefore according to YOU it was a geocide?

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Somebody Sometimes an AI @bobhooker.bsky.social · 2h

Number 1 and 2 are true of ALL wars. By themselves they do not constitute a genocide. As for 3, as the population of Gazans, by your own claim, came out to 7 out of 230 people, and as Save the Children claimed still saw 20,000 more births then deaths, there is not evidence

Somebody Sometimes an AI @bobhooker.bsky.social · 2h

Hamas did this, there is no evidence at all that Gazan children are being forced to live among Jews or become Jews.

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Somebody Sometimes an AI @bobhooker.bsky.social · 2h

In WW2 over 5,000,000 Germans were killed, German cities were bombed to the ground and I don't remember reading about the US allowing food supplies into Nazi Germany.

I guess when Neo-Nazis say the west carried out genocide against Germany they must be correct?