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Packers Vs. Bengals - 3 Plays That Make You Go Hmmm
After re-watching the Packers game, here are three plays that made me go hmmm, for various reasons. In general, I either focus on a theme, more nuanced observations, or just things I didn't notice watching live. These can be but are less likely to be "highlight" plays. I present these to you with a short explanation why I picked them and then let you readers discuss the plays.   Field Goal Protection - Ah, thank God everything is fixed up on the field goal protection unit, right? Ummmm, not so fast.  This was the first kick attempt by emergency fill-in Lucas Havrisick. Watch the left side of the line closely. Hard to believe, but the outside player (in this case Karl Brooks) once again chooses to worry about the outside rusher instead of helping with the overload on Rasheed Walker. Walker gets blown up and could have used some help, but there was none as Brooks moves away to put hands on the player that will most likely NEVER get in fast enough to block a kick. Are they not drilling this into their players' heads???  For his part, Walker's pad level is terrible compared to the rest of the players blocking, who are crouched down low at the snap. No surprise he can't hold up against two rushers in that position. In fairness, the protection looked better the rest of the game, BUT, the Bengals chose to overload the other side on those plays and the right side of the Packers line did a better job of protection. Overall, there's still reason for concern, here.   Golden Opportunity - The call has been coming from all directions (including mine) to feature Matthew Golden more. That means more plays where Love looks for him as the primary target. On this play, despite having all day in the pocket, Love never even looks Golden's way. Instead he (in my terms) forces the ball to Doubs who he is solely focused on. Doubs is covered tightly. Luckily for Love, the high pass pulled Doubs back and out of bounds, which may have prevented the chance of the DB cutting in front and intercepting the ball. Golden is wide open for what would have been at least a 20 yard gain. If Golden is one on one with the safety protecting against a deep pass, this route is like taking candy from a baby, especially if the play action holds the linebackers from dropping, which was the case here. You have a weapon with Golden, use it!   Parsons Headlock - I've seen worse, but I'm bringing this to your attention because I've noticed this technique being used on Parsons over the course of the Packers' first five games. Is this not holding? Like I said, I've seen even more egregious examples, but in my opinion, reaching out and grabbing a player's head and holding on is basically a headlock and should be worthy of a flag. The official is right there looking at it, so, I don't know, maybe I'm wrong? What do you think? Filed Under: FeaturedJersey Al Bracco   PLEASE SUBSCRIBE TO OUR CHEESEHEAD NATION WEEKLY NEWSLETTER HERE. __________________________ "Jersey Al" Bracco is the Editor-In-Chief, part owner and wearer of various hats for CheeseheadTV.com and PackersTalk.com. He's a lifetime Packers fan living in the land of the Giants (and Jets). Follow Al on twitter at @JerseyalGBP.  __________________________ NFL Categories: Cincinnati BengalsGreen Bay PackersTags: packersbengalsplaysvideo3 playsfilmCoaches Film Like 0 points
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Tough ending but had a great time at the ballpark tonight. And I can’t believe I got to witness the most insane double play in baseball history.
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They will still be on 1070 The Game in Madison for the time being.
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Packers Handle Bengals, 27-18
  Entering Sunday, the Green Bay Packers hadn’t won a football game in one month and one day. While their 27-18 home win over the Cincinnati Bengals was far from perfect, coach Matt LaFleur felt “a sense of relief” to have his club back in the win column.  “You always get punched in the face in this league and our guys kept responding,” he said, via packers.com. “That’s what we need to be (resilient), and you have to go through those moments in order to be that. Bottom line, we found a way.” The defense pitched a nearly perfect shutout in the first half, only to allow Cincinnati to score on three straight second-half drives. Meanwhile, after a disjointed, 10-point first half, the Packer offense delivered three consecutive second-half scoring drives of its own to keep the Bengals at arms’ length. The defense started the game with the same suffocating presence it displayed in the first three weeks of the season. Quarterback Joe Flacco – traded from Cleveland to Cincinnati five days ago – looked bewildered trying to execute a new playbook with new teammates against a fast Packers defense. The Bengals amassed one first down on their first four drives.  The offense needed the support. A promising opening drive ended with an ill-advised Jordan Love interception. An inconsistent second quarter resulted in a field goal, touchdown, and two quick punts.  Lucas Havrisik comfortably split the uprights from 43 yards for a 3-0 Green Bay lead early in the second quarter. Havrisik signed to replace Brandon McManus while he recovers from a quad injury. McManus thought he could kick today, but also acknowledged to the coaching and training staff he still felt something.  “Sometimes you have to protect the players from themselves. This was a long-term play by us,” LaFleur said. Havrisik was perfect on the day, going 2-for-2 on field goals, and 3-for-3 on point-after-attempts.                                          Josh Jacobs scored his first of two touchdowns on the day with 4:05 remaining in the half. A short, three-yard push up the middle gave the Packers a 10-0 lead. The run game ended the drive, but the pass game ignited it.  Facing a 3rd & 10 and a second straight three-and-out, Love placed a perfect deep pass down the left sideline to Matthew Golden. Love’s pass beat the tight coverage as Golden hauled in the 35-yard catch with no room to spare. Love followed it up with a jump-pass checkdown to Jacobs, who took that for 29 yards, to set up his touchdown run.   Golden led the team with 86 receiving yards on three catches in his best performance as a rookie. Love finished 19 of 26 for 259 with a touchdown and interception. Cincinnati missed on a 67-yard field-goal attempt and Green Bay led 10-0 entering the locker room. Evan McPherson actually made the kick on a snap that didn’t count thanks to a LaFleur timeout. The make would’ve set a new NFL field goal record.  The offense carried the defense in the second half.  Cincinnati opened with a 17-play, 78-yard touchdown drive that ate up 10:14 from the game clock. The Bengals started finding success on the ground which eased Flacco into a rhythm he didn’t seem to lose. The veteran quarterback calmly hit Tanner Hudson underneath the goal post on 4th-and-goal from the two, 10-7.  Once Love and the offense finally got their turn, they delivered a nine-play, 66-yard touchdown drive, 17-7. Jacobs scored straight up gut from the 14-yard line as his offensive line opened a massive hole.  “Early on, I thought we left some (rushing) yards out there,” LaFleur said. “That’s when I went over and challenged the offensive line. I said ‘If they’re going to play two-shell and we’re getting two yards, it’s going to be a long day for us.’ Those guys did a really nice job, I think, responding.” Jacobs finished with 93 yards on 18 carries leading to the two scores. He added five catches for 57 yards in the passing game.  The Bengals settled for a field goal on their next drive thanks to a dropped pass, and Tucker Kraft stepped up with a 19-yard catch-and-run for a touchdown, 24-10. Kraft’s run-after-the-catch ability is becoming his trademark, and he again displayed it on the score.  Love found Kraft in the right flat after a quick play action. The third-year tight end burst up the right sideline and turned into a runaway train speeding to the end zone. One Bengals defender could barely hang on to Kraft, much less stop him. Another tried to deliver a forceful hit, only to  ricochet and spin in place like a top as Kraft dove across the goal line.   The defense again had a chance to close the door, and again couldn’t. This time, the Bengals leaned on their All-Pro, triple-crown wide receiver Ja’Marr Chase. Flacco, settled and comfortably picking at the defense with short papercuts, connected with Chase four times on the touchdown drive. The fourth connection happened when Chase outmuscled Keisean Nixon at the goal line for a one-handed body catch. The Bengals added a two-point conversion to make it 24-18.  Flacco ended 29 of 45 passing for 219 yards and two touchdowns. Chase had 10 catches for 94 yards and a score.  Green Bay again pushed the lead to two scores as Havrisik hit from 39 yards with 1:52 remaining for the 27-18 final. McPherson missed from 56 to seal the imperfect, needed win for the Packers. Other Notes: * Sean Rhyan started at right guard and alternated the first three series with Jordan Morgan. Afterwards, Morgan played the entire game.  * Edgerinn Cooper led the team in tackles with 11 * Lukas Van Ness registered Green Bay’s only sack. Two plays later, he injured his foot and did not return. LaFleur said he’ll have an MRI tomorrow.  * Javon Bullard suffered another concussion, his second of the season.  Filed Under: FeaturedGreen Bay PackersJocelyn Hopkinson PLEASE SUBSCRIBE TO OUR CHEESEHEAD NATION WEEKLY NEWSLETTER HERE. __________________________ Jocelyn Hopkinson is a contributor for CheeseheadTV and can be found on Twitter at Jh0p_4 __________________________   NFL Categories: Cincinnati BengalsTags: bengalsLucas Havrisik Like 0 points
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Packers 27 Bengals 18 Game Balls & Lame Calls
While it was not the beat down, get right, "put em away early" game that many were hoping for, the Packers took care of business against the Bengals, and move to 3-1-1 on the season.  The Bengals were able to keep the game close due to an early interception from Love, and a ten minute drive to start the second half off. Take those two factors out of the equation, and this was a fairly dominant performance by the Packers against an inferior team. They were in control of this game basically from the start, and won by two scores.  But they were still a late fourth quarter third and long conversion away from handing the ball back to Cincinnati, only up six.  There's a odd schism in the identity of the 2025 Packers, and it's a major factor in the fans' frustrations with the team. This is a team that feels like it should be a veteran, world-wise unit, capable of disciplined play and able to put away any kind of opponent. We feel this way because, for the most part, the core of this team is at least in its second or third year. We know these faces, and we've seen them grow, from the scrappy 2023 version of themselves that rode house money all the way to the divisional round to now.  But the reality of the Packers is that they are not a veteran team. In fact, for the third year in a row, they are the youngest team in the entire league. By proxy, that makes them the most inexperienced team in the entire league. These ebbs and flows that we've seen from the team are a feature, not a bug. By design, there's going to be a lot of self improvement for the entire roster to make before January.  Game Balls  Matthew Golden / Tucker Kraft  Every single week, it feels like we are this close to a Matthew Golden breakout game. Thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis close.  We saw a couple of signs to light the way this week. How about Golden's 86 yards on only three receptions? And boy, were those three receptions spectacular.  Catch 1:  Matthew Golden finally getting used in a game like he should be!#GoPackGo pic.twitter.com/9dm03lpj9v — SleeperPackers (@SleeperPackers) October 12, 2025 Catch 2:  Offense saw the tweets pic.twitter.com/Ag9xL64OVV — CheeseheadTV 🧀 (@cheeseheadtv) October 12, 2025 Catch 3: When the game is on the line think player not play...Jordan Love to Matthew Golden for 31 yards 😤pic.twitter.com/C2dS5hco4x — Packerfan Total Access- Clayton (@packers_access) October 12, 2025   Meanwhile, Tucker Kraft did Tucker Kraft things, including bullying his way into the endzone for a key fourth quarter score. His other reception was another explosive play, a 24 yard reception in the second quarter.  One thing this game made abundantly clear was that these two players are deserving of an increased target share.  Lucas Havrisik What an incredibly impressive showing for Havrisik, who finished the day 2/2 on field goals, 3/3 on extra points, and also handled kickoff duties for Green Bay. He earns a game ball for incredibly quick turnaround, following his workout with the team on Thursday, to gameday on Sunday.  Because he's unlikely to stick around on the roster, some quick background on Havrisik: The former Arizona Wildcat is the one time winner of the Pac 12 special teams player of the week, with a 34/53 mark on field goals and 73/78 for extra points over his collegiate career. Havrisik signed with the Colts practice squad in 2022, before spending time with the Browns, the Rams (where he saw some gametime and kicked a game winner against the Seahawks), the Browns again, and the Buffalo Bills, before ending up in the UFL at the end of last season.  It's likely that McManus will be back in time for the game in Arizona next week, but Havrisik has earned a footnote in the story of the 2025 Packers.   Josh Jacobs  While it took a few weeks into the season for Jacobs to get up to speed, the team MVP of 2024 has returned to form. Jacobs took 16 carries for 93 rushing yards, two touchdowns and an impressive 5.2 YPC. He added another 57 yards through the air for 150 total yards. Jacobs is making the most of every single touch he gets on the football field, and even more impressively, he did with the while battling the flu.  In run blocking, I thought we saw a good bounce back game from Rasheed Walker and Jordan Morgan, but it was the outside blockers that really made the day. The Packers ask a lot from their receivers, especially as blockers on those outside run concepts. I saw a lot of great things from Matthew Golden in particular, but also from the tight ends Tucker Kraft and Luke Musgrave.  Lame Calls The Offensive Line This might be half of a lame call, because the offensive line was generally good in the running game, and was better in passing protection in the second half of the game. Here's the thing though: that's still underperforming the expectations that everyone had of this group entering the 2025 season.  There's a play in the second half that really sums up the frustrations that I have with the offensive line right now. It's third down and long, and the Bengals end up rushing only three. So the Packers, of course, end up letting the pressure get to Love anyway, who has to escape the pocket and throw an incomplete pass. That just can't happen, and it wasn't just that play. If you were watching this game, you saw lots of collapsed pockets on Love, most of which he escaped, and we even saw him pick up a few first downs with his legs. But he doesn't need to do that if the line can hold up against the lowly Bengals only sending four rushers.  The Bengals pass rush is not a playoff caliber unit, and if the Packers struggle for the rest of the season like they did today, the truth of the matter is that the offensive line is a unit that the Packers must win in spite of, and not because of. Time is running out for the line to prove that are an asset.  Lack of Takeaways We are six weeks into the 2025 season, and your Green Bay Packers defense has only taken the ball away from the offense twice. Both are the result of interceptions by the safeties, and looking back, it probably would have been better if McKinney would have just let that Joe Flacco arm punt fall to the ground in Cleveland.  Takeaways are a hard thing to come by in the NFL, but with the major emphasis that the team put on punching the ball out in training camp, it's a bit strange that the team hasn't gotten any results out of it. Have we even seen any players attempting one? Please remind me in the comments if you can remember an instance, but I really can't.  Meanwhile, on the interception front, it's clear that opposing offenses are choosing to throw anywhere and everywhere on the field that doesn't contain Xavier McKinney. He and Evan Williams are keeping the top on offenses, and preventing any explosive plays from getting past them. I thought Quay and Edgerrin Cooper had a much better game today than in Dallas, but their role within the defense really doesn't lend itself to creating opportunities for interceptions. That leaves the corners as the other possibility to create those turnovers, and so far they just... haven't. Turnovers tend to come in bunches for defenses. Remember how easily they seemed to come to the Packers to start of the 2024 season, and how quickly they dried up. It's possible that the tide could turn once more, but until then we are going to have to keep relying on the pass rush to be the motor of the defense.  Three and Out --  Today's phrase of the week is "flip-flopping". As in, the offense and defense flip-flopping over halftime as they decided which unit would be good, and which one wouldn't. Over the first half of the game, the defense had pitched a shutout and dominated every aspect of the Bengals' offense, while the offense's motor was backfiring, held back by turnovers and penalties. Then came the second half, and the Bengals clawed their way down the field for 18 total points, headlined by a touchdown that only Jamar Chase could have come down with. Tip your cap to Joe Flacco (who we hopefully won't see again this season) for an excellent second half of football. He showed off exactly the veteran savvy that the Bengals were looking for when they made that trade. Unfortunately for the Bengals, the Packers offense also found their next gear in the second half.  --  Injury Notes:Javon Bullard (concussion), Dontayvion Wicks (ankle) and Lukas Van Ness (foot) all left the game with injuries on Sunday. Matt LaFleur gave indications in the post game press conference that LVN's injury did not seem to be bone related, a positive sign.after he was carted off the field in the fourth quarter. Meanwhile as we look ahead to the Cardinals game, some stories to keep an eye on are Kyler Murrary and Marvin Harrison Jr, who may not be available for next weeks contest in Arizona  -- No team in the NFL has a bigger explosive play ( 20+ passing or 10+ rushing ) margin than the Green Bay Packers, and this game was a perfect representation. The Packers had 194 yards on explosive passes, versus 94 for the Bengals. The Bengals had zero yards on "Deep" completions, while the Packers had 111. In the turnover section, I mentioned how teams have avoided throwing the ball deep against the safety duo of McKinney & Williams, and these are the kind of advantages that the Packers can create for themselves when that is the case.  Filed Under: FeaturedKalani JonesGame Balls and Lame Calls PLEASE SUBSCRIBE TO OUR CHEESEHEAD NATION WEEKLY NEWSLETTER HERE. __________________________ Co-Owner of the thirteen time world champion Green Bay Packers. Sometimes I write about them. Follow me on Twitter at https://x.com/kjones_in_co and on Substack for film breakdowns! __________________________   NFL Categories: Cincinnati BengalsGreen Bay PackersTags: Green Bay PackersCincinnati BengalsJordan LoveMatt LaFleurJosh Jacobs Like 0 points
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We must have watched different games. They had total control of that game.
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Packers vs Bengals: Gameday Preview - 2025 Week 6
We hope you had a restful bye week, because your Green Bay Packers are right back at it this afternoon, taking on the Cincinnati Bengals at Lambeau Field at 3:25 PM CST. No one would blame the Packers for playing angry in this one, as two weeks ago, they had to head into the bye after a 40-40 tie against the Dallas Cowboys that took their season record to 2-1-1. That's a long time to stew over a game that essentially resulted in nothing, neither a win nor a loss, just a stale mindset where they can only think that they need to be better. The Bengals sit at 2-3 after their defeat at the hands of the Detroit Lions, 37-24, last week, and made a trade for Joe Flacco in an attempt to improve their QB situation in the absence of Joe Burrow. The Packers will once again be trying to prove they're legit, while the Bengals will just be trying to keep their heads above water. The last time these two teams met was almost exactly four years ago, on October 10, 2021, when the Packers defeated the Bengals in overtime, 25-22, off a 49-yard Mason Crosby field goal. In fact, four years before that, the Packers defeated the Bengals in OT off a Mason Crosby field goal as well. So, the last two times these teams met, they headed to overtime. If we're being honest, I don't think Packers fans could handle overtime today, given the result of the game two weeks ago. If they do, hopefully it actually ends in the Packers coming away victorious. In the 2021 meeting, Davante Adams absolutely torched the Bengals defense for 206 yards off 11 catches and a touchdown, while the Bengals' Ja'Marr Chase torched the Packers defense for six catches, 159 yards, and a touchdown. Chase is coming off a 110-yard performance with two touchdowns last week; hopefully, history doesn't repeat itself.  The Packers are coming off a much-needed early bye week. I honestly didn't think I would ever say a week 5 bye was needed, but here we are. With injuries on both sides of the ball, especially the offensive line, the Packers needed an off week to get healthier. In the first three games of the season, it seemed like the defense would be a huge strength for the Packers, and perhaps the offense would need to catch up, but after a 40-40 tie where it seemed like it was now the defense's turn to catch up, there's nothing better than a week off to do some evaluating. Tackling and over-pursuit were issues against the Cowboys for the defense, while the offense in the first four games has struggled to get Josh Jacobs off and running. Hopefully, that self-evaluation can patch up those issues. In a bit of a must-win for the Packers today, they need to put together a complete game on offense, defense, and special teams to regain that early-season momentum.  What to see on Offense Throughout the offseason, one couldn't escape the wishes or rumors of the Packers pursuing a trade for Bengals' pass rusher Trey Hendrickson. The team spending high draft capital on a 30-year-old player seemed extremely unlikely, and it wouldn't even become a possibility as Hendrickson re-signed with the Bengals. So far this season, he's paid the Bengals back for keeping him to the tune of four sacks in five games. Lining up mainly on the right side of the defensive line, Hendrickson will likely match up against Rasheed Walker, who has had his ups and downs this season. Outside of Hendrickson, DE, Joseph Ossai has two sacks with Kris Jenkins Dr. and Myles Murphy holding 1.5 each. The offensive line for the Packers is a bit healthier now, with Zach Tom and Aaron Banks returning to practice this week, and they will be looking to protect Jordan Love much better than they did two weeks ago. Bengals' first-round pick Shemar Stewart is doubtful for today's game. Despite the less-than-impressive protection last game for Jordan Love, the passing game for the Packers hit its stride with Jordan Love going 31/43 for 337 yards and three touchdowns. That could be a big difference maker today with the Bengals' ranking 29th in the league with 259 passing yards allowed per game.  The Bengals do rank 6th in the league, holding five interceptions so far in 2025, with safety Jordan Battle leading the way with two, but outside of INT's the Cincinnati secondary has not been a strong suit. If the Packers' offensive line can keep Jordan Love comfortable, there could be a lot of success through the air.  The Packers' rushing attack continues to be a question after four games. However, Josh Jacobs and Emanuel Wilson really found their stride in the second half against Dallas and became a factor late. The Bengals currently sit towards the bottom of the league, allowing an average of 132.2 rushing yards per game. With a healthier offensive line to help open up running lanes, today could be a big opportunity for the Packers' offense to get right in the running game.  What to See on Defense Earlier this week, the Bengals traded to Cleveland for QB Joe Flacco. They quickly announced that Flacco would start on Sunday against the Packers. Now, superstitious Packers fans are shaking in their boots over the fact that Joe Flacco was the QB of the Browns when the Browns defeated the Packers 10-13, three weeks ago. Let's get one thing straight. The Browns' defense gave the Packers' offense fits, and they struggled to get anything going. Joe Flacco went 21/36 for 142 yards and an interception. The Packers' defense had Joe Flacco in hell; he was not the difference maker in that game. And now guess what, he's behind one of the worst offensive lines in the league that barely could keep Joe Burrow and Jake Browning upright.  Pass rush will be a key in today's game to make Joe Flacco uncomfortable with his new team. Micah Parsons and friends struggled a bit against Dallas in roping in Dak Prescott; they need to make today a momentum shifter and cannot afford to let Joe Flacco perform the impossible in pulling off a victory, starting just five days after acquisition.  Ja'Marr Chase and Tee Higgins possibly make one of the best receiver duos in football, so Flacco will have some good targets if Chase plays today after being questionable due to illness. The Packers' secondary did not have a good game against Dallas, and despite Flacco only having a few days with his targets, he's sure to try them out today against cornerbacks like Carrington Valentine and Nate Hobbs, who have struggled as of late. On top of Chase and Higgins, the Bengals also have Noah Fant and Mike Gesicki, who haven't been largely impressive so far this season, but for a QB like Flacco that may need to get the ball out quickly, they could become a factor in today's game.  The Bengals haven't had a lot of success running the ball this season. If you think the Packers have struggled a bit in that area, the first four games of the season, the Packers have 458 yards rushing total; the Bengals only have 285 through five games. They're led by Chase Brown, who has 160 yards off 65 carries and one touchdown, followed by Samaje Perine with 52 yards off nine carries.  The Packers struggled against the run in Dallas following the departure of Devonte Wyatt from the game, and unfortunately, Wyatt has not practiced this week, so he will not play today. We could see a heavy dose of Nazir Stackhouse or Warren Brinson at DT in running situations. Today could either be an opportunity for the Bengals to show they can run the ball after all, or it could be a day for the Packers' defense to prove they're not a one-man show against the run in the absence of Wyatt. Edgerrin Cooper possibly had his worst game in Green and Gold in Dallas that night; perhaps look for him to step up today to show he won't fall victim to that again.  Extra Notes After two blocked field goals this season and a rash of other mistakes, the last thing we need is special teams to play a negative part in today's results. Now, kicker Brandon McManus is questionable with a quad injury, leaving the kicker position a bit of a question mark today. The Packers have signed kicker Lucas Havrisik to the 53-man roster, just in case McManus is unable to go today. Havrisik has had stints with the Colts, Browns, Rams, and Bills in the three seasons, appearing in nine games where he went 15 for 20 with field goals and 19 of 22 for extra points. Havrisik also played 10 games for the Dallas Renegades in the UFL this past season. If McManus is unable to go, the Packers won't be just winging it at kicker, but I would imagine Matt LaFleur will be a little cautious with trusting the newly acquired kicker.  Whether the field goal debacles against Dallas were due to missed assignments from Brant Banks or Luke Musgrave, we'll likely never know for sure. However, Brant Banks' quick release from the team following the game doesn't bode well for his case. We finally have a reliable kicker in Brandon McManus; we need to have a clean field goal operation soon to restore confidence in lining up for a field goal attempt or extra point. Cincinnati will be looking to exploit it without a doubt, and we can't let this continue to be a problem.  The Bengals' kicker, on the other hand, Evan McPherson, has become one of the best kickers in the league, and so far this season, he has yet to miss a kick.  The Packers' return game is also lacking. Savion Williams hasn't looked the best on kickoffs, and Matthew Golden maybe should be focused more on offense than fielding punts. But with the Packers lacking a return specialist at the moment, those two rookies are just going to have to improve. Today could be a big stepping stone in the right direction.  On the other side of the field, Charlie Jones and Samaje Perine have done a good job fielding kicks and punts for the Bengals. They both have long returns of 35+ yards, and Jones, on punts, averages 13 yards per return. They shouldn't pose a big problem, but with the issues the Packers have had on special teams, you never know.  Daniel Whelan is averaging 51.8 yards with 14 punts, while Bengals punter Ryan Rehkow is averaging 53.1 yards on 27 punts with six touchbacks. Rehkow leads the league with that average, but his net-average is only in the middle of the league with 42.6.   In the End Today, the Packers are being presented with the most "get right" game of all get right games. They're at home coming off a bye against a struggling team, starting a QB that they desperately acquired five days ago. I don't mean to be the Grim Reaper, but if the Packers can't come away with a victory today, we have bigger problems than struggling special teams.  Next week, the Packers head to Arizona to take on the Cardinals to kick off back-to-back road games. Hopefully, Green Bay can take advantage of a struggling Bengals team today to give us Packers fans a nice, relaxing Sunday afternoon, enjoying a victory. Go Pack Go.    Filed Under: FeaturedGreen Bay PackersGreg MeinholzPreview and PredictionGameDay PLEASE SUBSCRIBE TO OUR CHEESEHEAD NATION WEEKLY NEWSLETTER HERE. __________________________ Greg Meinholz is a lifelong devoted Packer fan. A contributor to CheeseheadTV as well as PackersTalk. Follow him on Twitter @gmeinholz and Bluesky @gmeinholz.bsky.social for Packers commentary, random humor, beer endorsements, and occasional Star Wars and Marvel ramblings. __________________________ NFL Categories: Cincinnati BengalsGreen Bay PackersNFC NorthTags: Green Bay PackersJordan LoveTrey HendricksonMicah ParsonsJoe Flacco Like 0 points
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Burning Questions for the Rest of the Season
It’s fall, and that means the days are getting a chillier, the leaves are beginning to fall, and the halloween decorations have been busted out. It also means that the NFL has been playing long enough for most teams around the league to have a good grasp on their strengths and weaknesses.  The Green Bay Packers are coming out of their bye (hopefully) rested, refocused, and ready to take on a stretch of their season that appears to be heavily tilted in their favor.  The Packers start the next portion of their schedule as 14 point favorites over the Cincinnati Bengals, before heading to Arizona for a contest with the reeling Cardinals. The week after that, the Packers are headed to Pittsburg, who have some guy named Aaron Rodgers playing QB for them. Lastly, the Packers head back to Green Bay for a home game against the Panthers, who are playing so poorly they made a local podcast covering the team quit in frustration.  Obviously the matchup with the Steelers in week 8 is the marquee event, and likely is the most narratively important matchup in the regular season since 2009, when Brett Favre came to town in purple and gold. But there’s a whole lot of football between now and then, and the team can’t afford to look ahead to it.  I recently took the opportunity to look back on how the team has answered the burning questions of the offseason during their first month of play. Today I’ll take a look at new questions that have developed over the course of the 2025 season, and what answers can find. Can the offensive line gel together In one of the most surprising developments of the 2025 season, the Packers offensive line, which was purported to be a major strength of the team, has fallen well short of expectations. The starting group of Walker-Banks-Jenkins-Rhyan-Tom had two top 50 draft selections in backup, with Jordan Morgan and Anthony Belton, and the newly acquired Darrian Kinard as a solid depth piece. Walker was playing out his contract year, and as a starting left tackle in the NFL, was looking forward to using a high level of play to parlay into in a major payday next offseason, either with the Packers or elsewhere (Sean Rhyan is in the same boat). Zach Tom and Aaron Banks had just gotten their own paydays this past offseason. And Elgton Jenkins was moving positions to replace the worst starter on the offensive line last year, Josh Myers. The plan looked solid on paper, but they don’t play the games there.  It starts with the injuries. In the team’s total snap opportunities,  Zach Tom has only played 11.7%, Aaron Banks has 27.7%. There’s been a game of musical chairs behind those two players, with Jordan Morgan splitting 89% of the team’s snaps at three different positions, Darian Kinnard has played 45.1% of snaps, and Anthony Belton has played 33.7% of snaps.  Another note to keep an eye on as the season progresses: the split between zone blocking and gap blocking when rushing the ball.  In 2024, that split was around 60-40, in favor of zone blocking. But going back to 2023 and 2022, it starts to look more like 65-35. The Packers have been trending to using more and more gap blocking schemes, starting last year and seemingly doubled down upon with the acquisition of heavier offensive linemen over the offseason. Now four games into the 2025 season, it’s 50-50, with only five total snaps more of zone blocking than man.  How will Christian Watson’s return impact the offense When Watson tore his ACL in week 18 last year, Packers fans were already bracing for the possibility of being without him for the entire 2025 season. Now, just five weeks into the season, he has returned to practicing in an official capacity with the team.  Watson has a 21 day window in which to return to the active roster, and there’s a possibility we could see him in limited snaps as early as this week against Cincinnati, though I think it’s more likely we’ll see him return against Arizona.   Watson’s return to the lineup means the return of one of the most athletically explosive receivers in the entire league. Watson’s ability to draw defenders to him is a major piece of Matt LaFleur’s offense, and one that Jordan Love will look to take advantage of early. Just look at his stat line from last year’s early Bears game for the proof of concept. Watson has a reputation for drops and injuries among certain Packers fans, but he actually has one of the lowest career drop percentages among the team’s receivers, and has played more games than Jameson Williams, who just received a massive contract from the Lions.  His impact in the lineup is felt as a route decoy, a blocker, and a downfield target. But with an already crowded receiver room, where does a fully active Christian Watson fit in? The most obvious, and exciting, use case for Christian Watson in the 2025 version of this offense is as a pairing with Matthew Golden. That combination of their speed on the field together is an absolute nightmare for defensive coordinators to stop. Look for the two to be bunched up together on the same side of the field, especially early on in Watson’s return, as an easy way for LaFleur to get Watson into the flow of the offense again.  Late last season, when the Packers were struggling against man coverage, and opposing teams were seeking to exploit this, Watson was by far the most effective counter the team had against it.  Pass game vs Run game If there’s something that Matt LaFleur has made plain this season, it’s that he really, really wants to run the ball.  Putting aside the discussion about aggressive vs conservative playcalling, which is a related but separate discussion, how does the split between runs and passes look for the offense moving forward? So far in 2025, the offense has run the football at the fourth highest rate in the NFL, at 45%. That’s only behind the Seahawks, Lions and Eagles. LaFleur has been vocal about his preference to map out gameplans according to rushing attempts, and not necessarily by rushing yards.  Having a high number of rushing attempts does lend your offense a number of advantages. The obvious ones are to set up play action passes later in the game, and tiring out the defense. There’s also the added ability to dictate terms and game flow to the defense more successfully, with an effective running game. A successful running game can also lend itself to a team like Green Bay who likes to spread out receiving targets equally as well. Remember LaFleur’s comment about his… distaste for WR1 discussion. When you’ve got an effective running game and a myriad of receiving options, the defense has no way of anticipating where the ball could go at any given moment.  On the other hand, when your QB is dealing the way Jordan Love was in that Dallas game, the question is begged: why would you ever take the ball out of his hands? A higher passing attempt average tends to result in higher EPA, points per game, and explosive plays. Love has made the most out of his opportunities this year, and has looked like a bona fide top ten quarterback this year.  When measured in EPA, the Packers have a +45.9 when passing, and a +3.7 when rushing. Jordan Love also leads the league in EPA in expected pass situations (i.e. third and long, two minute drills etc.)  With the run game struggling to find its sea legs, and coming off of the monster performance against Dallas, the team should (in my opinion) look to run the offense through Love’s arm over the next few weeks, especially against the Bengals and Cardinals.  What does the ceiling really look like for the cornerbacks? Will the real cornerback room please stand up? For a unit that looked as dominant as any other unit on the team through week three, boy did they crash back to Earth against the Cowboys. The question is why, and is there more of the same on the horizon? Similarly to the offensive line, the cornerbacks expected an uptick in play, via addition by subtraction. The Eric Stokes experiment was ended, with Nate Hobbs signed in his absence.  Now, Hobbs’ has been disappointing in his limited play, but the fact is that none of the corners looked great in Dallas. The Packers’ pass rush was, quite simply, stifled. The secondary suddenly felt all the weight of the defense on its shoulders alone, and couldn’t keep up with Dak Prescott seeing the face of god for 45 minutes.  The fact of the matter is that if the Packers want to get to the promised land, they’ve got to go through some of the best offensive lines in the league. If the secondary’s level of play is entirely predicated on the pass rush’s ability to affect the quarterback, that’s just a tough way to live. Injuries pending, the Packers have a Super Bowl caliber pass rush, as crazy as that still seems to say.  In order for the defense as a whole to become a Super Bowl-caliber unit, the cornerbacks must prove that the Dallas game was a fluke, and come up with their own positive contributions. They’ve proven to be productive in the area of pass breakups, but the real next step for the group has to be generating turnovers. Through these four games, the secondary has only intercepted two passes, and both of those have been from the safeties.  Does the defense have any more tricks up its sleeve? Look, I’ll admit this is a Micah Parsons question. His volume stats (4 tackles, 2.5 sacks) don’t jump off the page, but volume stats are for losers.  Micah is the ultimate chess piece, but I predicted that Packers fans would have to wait a bit before they could see that piece fully unleashed. Through the first four games that the Packers have played, that prediction has panned out and Micah has only played four total snaps off the line of scrimmage.  To me, the bye week presented Jeff Hafley the chance to introduce Micah into different roles within the defense, and the possibilities are endless. The Packers want to be a disguise-based defense, according to Evan Williams. When playing disguise defense, there’s a certain disadvantage to having to inherently play players out of position. For example, the simulated pressure concept that took the league by storm last season. You’re showing blitz, but end up only bringing four rushers, albeit from unorthodox spots, and dropping linemen into coverage. Naturally, a lineman isn’t going to be very good in coverage right? Not when you're dropping Parsons back, who has the speed to stick with almost any running back or tight end in the league. And that linebacker or safety you’re rushing, who wouldn’t be as good at doing it as others? Stick Micah in that spot. Now you’re still in an advantageous spot, personnel wise.  Expect a creative mind such as Hafley’s to begin to make full use of Parsons’ unicorn-like versatility in the next few games.  What is going on with the special teams Deep Sigh I don’t know what kind of ancient, special teams related eldritch being that the Packers pissed off within the past two decades, but boy, it has not taken it easy on the team.  Justis Mosqueda of Acme Packing Company is the resident special teams expert among the internetwide Packers-sphere, and he’s written extensively on the topic. In his most recent article on the subject, Mosqueda points to a Special Teams Scores chart, tracking the performance of special teams over the last twenty years. I’ll give you three guesses as to who is at the very bottom of that chart.  Mosqueda provides a number of possible explanations for the phenomena, which has obviously persisted over the course of multiple head coaches, general managers, and special teams coordinators during that twenty year stretch.  Unfortunately, the firing of Rich Bisaccia mid season is extremely unlikely, first to actually happen and second to ultimately help the problem. So that leaves the Packers with the question: can they figure this out mid-season, with the tools they already have, before it can really come back to bite them. We all remember how putrid the special teams were in 2021, how it cost the Packers a playoff game against San Francisco. In order for history to avoid repeating itself, the special teams needs something. What is that something? I don’t know.  Playing more starters on teams could be a solution, but there seems to be an institutional aversion to the practice in Green Bay. We can only hope that Bisaccia and LaFleur have been putting their heads together over the bye, and that extra time in the film room has been dedicated to those issues.   I’d also be curious to see if the Packers exit their bye trying the “dirty kickoff” that they saw firsthand in Dallas, which has also been employed by the Panthers and the Rams. Simply explained, with the new kickoff rules, a kickoff that lands in the endzone is given a touchback that starts at the 35. But if the kick bounces in the field of play into the endzone, the touchback is rewarded at the 20. That’s 15 free yards just waiting to be exploited! If the team doesn’t at least attempt this, I’d be very curious to hear the answer why. Conclusion The NFL is constantly evolving, and it has a way of humbling even the best teams. Three weeks ago the Packers were on top of the football world, riding high off wins against the Lions and Commanders. Now? They’ve got a multitude of questions to answer, and ground to make up in the race for the NFC North. Even after beating the Lions to start the year, Detroit is once again favored to win the division.  The football gods have granted Green Bay every opportunity in the world to attempt to figure this thing out. An early bye, and a few lower tier opponents to try to get it right against. The same team that took it to Detroit and Washington is still there. It’s time they go out and prove it.   Filed Under: FeaturedKalani Jones PLEASE SUBSCRIBE TO OUR CHEESEHEAD NATION WEEKLY NEWSLETTER HERE. __________________________ Co-Owner of the thirteen time world champion Green Bay Packers. Sometimes I write about them. Follow me on Twitter at https://x.com/kjones_in_co and on Substack for film breakdowns! __________________________   NFL Categories: Green Bay PackersTags: Green Bay PackersMatt LaFleurJordan LoveMicah ParsonsNFL Breakdowns Like 0 points
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Confessions of a Polluted Mindset - Hit Pause and Reset
Is there ever a year where the bye doesn't seem to come at the perfect time for our Green Bay Packers? My guess cause is the usual up and down nature of a typical Packers season, but that likely applies to the majority of NFL teams in the age of parity. Of course, we all likely let out a collective groan when the schedule was first revealed and the Packers drew the earliest possible bye, But after the last two games, where special teams were anything but and the defense went back to it's old poor tackling ways, I'm sure the coaches appreciate the extra week to take a breath, self scout, and identify what they do well and what should be avoided. And let's not forget the Packers' walking wounded who will benefit greatly from an extra week of rest. Aaron Banks and Zach Tom are both back practicing. If there's anything the Packers offense could really use, it would be a return to normalcy on their offensive line. I'm hoping they can get back to the five they started the season with and if Sean Rhyan struggles, bring Morgan into that spot. The Packers are 3-3 the week after the bye under Matt LaFleur, but the wins have been close and the losses have not. The net result is a -31 point differential over those six games.  The Jeff Hafley coaching tree is off to a strong start. After only one year with the Packers as their linebackers coach and run game coordinator, Anthony Campanile is transforming what was previously a woeful Jaguars defense. After five games, they lead the league with 10 interceptions, are 6th in forced fumbles with 5, 8th in points allowed (The Packers are 10th) and 11th in rushing yards allowed (the Packers are 2nd), Campanile has that old school, fiery coach demeanor that pairs well with coaching defense. The Packers defense has been really good (minus the Dallas game), but I wish my New Jersey paisano would have stuck around for one more year with Hafley and the Packers. I don't care how good Chrisitian Watson looks (and he looks great!), there's no way the Packers should or will activate him for this week.  I'm calling this a revenge game with Joe Flacco now a Bengal (even though Flacco was not the reason the Browns won that game, the Packers simply lost it themselves). For Matthew Golden, it really is time they start giving him more targets downfield. Stop with the jet sweeps, let Savion Williams be that guy. Golden doesn't seem to have a natural feel for when or where to cut on those possessions. That doesn't mean he can't develop it eventually, but using Golden to do what Jayden Reed was doing is not taking advantage of what Golden does best, which is get open and catch the football. #Go Pack Go Filed Under: FeaturedJersey Al Bracco   PLEASE SUBSCRIBE TO OUR CHEESEHEAD NATION WEEKLY NEWSLETTER HERE. __________________________ "Jersey Al" Bracco is the Editor-In-Chief, part owner and wearer of various hats for CheeseheadTV.com and PackersTalk.com. He's a lifetime Packers fan living in the land of the Giants (and Jets). Follow Al on twitter at @JerseyalGBP.  __________________________ NFL Categories: Cincinnati BengalsGreen Bay PackersTags: green bay packersPolluted Mindset2025 Like 0 points
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Reminder! If you're in the Green Bay area this weekend, come on out to Hagemeister Park on Saturday at 5pm for the next CHTV Meet Up! Plenty of Carry The G and football talk on offer. See you there!